GTD Weight

[19gt3rswes]

What is this beast going to weigh? I have heard mixed messaging. On one hand I heard it will weigh around a GT500, and on the other I have heard between 3300 and 3500 lbs. Those are grossly different numbers ... could be in the neighborhood of 900 lbs difference between the two.

You can hide a bit of weight with a great chassis, but you can't fight physics. The way this car will ultimately handle is going to have a lot do to with how much weight that Ford manged to cut as a 4000lb+ vehicle is extremely hard on brakes, tires, and fuel when driving on the track especially.

 

[dbk]

I honestly have no idea why anyone thinks it will weigh 3300-3500 lbs. The last Dark Horse C&D weighed was 3,992 lbs, and that’s a car with significantly less hardware. Yeah, some stuff like the CF body panels and titanium exhaust remove weight, but you’re adding back in a hydraulic system that weighs a significant amount, a supercharger, a ton of cooling for bigger/faster everything etc. Even the glass suspension window adds weight.

Obviously all things being equal I’d prefer a lighter car but the car is still based on an S650, so there’s only so much you can do. I agree that the car is going to eat tires and brakes, but these guys do unbelievable magic these days with that ASV suspension and tire. I guarantee you the driving experience gets compared favorably with a GT BS or 992 3RS.

Plus weights everywhere are just crazy. This gen AMG GT base curb is 4,343. Dragtimes weighed his Revuelto and it was 4,335. ZR1 with fluids is right at 4,000 lbs. Heavy times.

 

[PonyRacer]

It's strange to me that Larry Holt explicitly stated in that interview it was going to be around GT500 CTFP weight (but they're trying to shave off a few pounds) and I've been seeing people say that it'll be around GT3 weight despite that. Realistically they could MAYBE get the car to 3850 at the lightest but 3900-3950 is probably where we'll see this thing end up. My GT500 always feels spectacular around track despite the weight so I can't imagine how good the GTD is going to feel.

 

[PetrolHead]

've been seeing people say that it'll be around GT3 weight despite that

I think I know why that is. I don't know if they have fixed it yet but a few month ago, if you googled "mustang gtd weight" it gave you the weight of the GT3 RS, becouse they were mentioned in the same article and someone must have counfused the two weights.

 

[hand assembled]

I think I know why that is. I don't know if they have fixed it yet but a few month ago, if you googled "mustang gtd weight" it gave you the weight of the GT3 RS, becouse they were mentioned in the same article and someone must have counfused the two weights.

yeah. this is the article. https://www.thedrive.com/news/the-2025-ford-mustang-gtd-takes-on-the-world-and-might-actually-win

it caught me out too, until i read the entire article, as this is the line that pops up.

"All of it weighs just 3,268 pounds."

next paragraph:

"While the Mustang GTD’s weight is unknown, it will very likely be much heavier than the Porsche."

 

[dbk]

One thing I will say is that there is an unavoidable trade-off in weight for the performance benefit of the slammed track mode on these aero-heavy cars. The GT gained something like 160 lbs with all the hydraulic shit but the car was still (supposedly) faster slammed in track mode than it would have been with a permanent road-legal ride height minus the weight. Really small changes increase or decrease those underbody aero effects, which is why you see teams get DQ'd for minimum ride height infractions.

 

[hand assembled]

there is an unavoidable trade-off in weight for the performance benefit

this, in so many ways.

a lighter chassis and doors would be the obvious way to cut weight but that's a whole different ball game... and price.

 

[Tomster]

this, in so many ways.

a lighter chassis and doors would be the obvious way to cut weight but that's a whole different ball game... and price.

At what will be near $400,000, i think maybe there should have been a different approach than the S650 chassis. The near 4000 pound weight makes a car less maeuverable on a more technical track. Yes, i get that they are changing the suspension and adding wider tires. The fact is physics is physics. Mass and inertia make the problem of changing magnitude and direction as needed on a track.

I have found this simple issue one of the biggest issues with the GT500. Yes, I know the GTD will not be a 500.

You can hide the weight with bigger brakes, wider tires, high HP engine, but at the end of the day a heavy car is a heavy car and with that brings about the problems that go along with it. For instance, I go through almost 2 sets of tires and front brakes over a weekend. The tires loose their grip after they become so heat cycled that you just slide all over the place because you are trying to manage (turn, brake) a very heavy car.

The GTD has a lot of similarities to the 500, as well as differences. I wish Ford would just release all the data to those that signed the NDA to help us make our early decision as to obtain the car or not.

 

[hand assembled]

The GTD has a lot of similarities to the 500, as well as differences. I wish Ford would just release all the data to those that signed the NDA to help us make our early decision as to obtain the car or not.

larry holt basically released the weight when he said it would be close to the gt500, it is what it is - a mustang with a steel chassis and steel doors. nobody is forcing you to do anything. you can base your decision on counting on it being about 3900 lbs. give or take 100 lbs. either way.